Badenoch says Lord Dannatt, the former head of the army, said yesterday the plan was inadequate. She says Badenoch. is in this mess because he would not cut welfare. The only way to get the money is to increase taxes, increase borrowing or cut welfare.
Starmer says the last budget had more than £22bn of headroom. That gives the government the abillity to take these sorts of decisions. He says the Tories do not understand that because they lost control of the public finances.